Break the [wounds + unawareness] cycle and guard your descendents

Options for Responding to Excessive
Jealousy
in Your Ex Spouse
- part 2 of 2

Decide if You Want to Be Active or Passive

By Peter K. Gerlach, MSW
Member NSRC Experts Council

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        This page explores choices you have if your ex mate is excessively jealous of you. The prior page outlines options you have for uncovering and resolving the primary problems underneath excessive jealousy you feel about your ex mate. If you haven't read that yet, do so now, and return. 


  What's the (Surface) Problem?

        The symptoms are many and varied: snide comments ("Well you're just sitting pretty on top of the world, aren't you?"); "looks;" sarcastic voice tone; burst of anger; physical or conversational avoidances; whining, blaming, snubbing, lateness, child-related arguments, resentful accusations,... Behavior patterns (messages) like these from your ex mate can mean several things. 

        One is that your ex may be unable to mourn the losses of your former relationship, your intact family,  and the dreams you shared. Another is that s/he is still enraged (hurt) that you rejected them (if you did). Another possibility is that they need to deny their own contribution, and blame you for the ongoing separation-related pain in their and your kids' lives.

        A fourth possibility is that your ex mate is excessively jealousy of you - as a person, a beloved custodial co-parent, a desired partner with a new love, a respected extended-family member, and/or a successful professional.

        The complexity of people and human relations makes it unlikely your ex's behaviors stem from just one thing. Whether the cause is obsessive jealousy or a mix of these motivators - what's the problem?

        If your ex behaves like the examples above, I suspect you experience at least two "problems" - (a) fluctuating frustration, indignation, and irritation (or anxiety) when you communicate with them; and (b) conflictual co-parenting: difficulty nurturing your child/ren effectively as separated loving parents. 

        A third problem may be how your ex mate's  behaviors (and your responses) affect your child/ren. If your ex is extra jealous, your minor or grown child/ren pick up mixed or critical messages from their other parent about you - which puts them in the middle of a stressful relationship triangle. If they're torn and uncomfortable - so (probably) are you.

        Because human communications are circular, a fourth possible problem is you - the semi-conscious way you usually react (verbally and otherwise)  when your ex acts jealous. S/He may perceive your responses as critical, disdainful, dishonest, boastful, phony, evasive, cowardly, or something equally nettling. All of these reactions have one communication dynamic in common: the R(espect) message embedded in them is received as either "I'm 1-up (better than you)," or "I'm 1-down (worse than you)." 

        If you're in a stepfamily, your ex mate's jealousy and resulting behaviors may also be contributing directly or indirectly to relationship problems with your new partner, and/or a stepchild or in-law.

        So what does all this mean, and what are your choices? Bottom line: your ex mate seems excessively jealous or resentful of you. That attitude may be blended with unresolved upsets with your past or present actions, traits, or circumstances. These make it hard to co-parent effectively with them, and may stress your kids. Those cause you stress.


  Premises

        Toward growing your own serenity and protecting your child/ren, reflect on these baseline proposals:

        If your ex is excessively jealous - you didn't cause it, and can't change it. Protesting, explaining, or arguing may make you feel better locally, but (a) will not change their beliefs, perceptions, or behavior; and (b) will probably increase your and their frustrations, impatience, disrespect, and distrust, over time. Those will degrade your co-parenting communication effectiveness, which will hurt your kids, and raise your guilt and anxiety. Does this match your experience?

  • You can control your attitude about your ex, and your responses to their jealous behaviors;

  • You can sort out concurrent relationship problems with your ex mate, and work to resolve them one at a time; and...

        You can influence (vs. control) your kids' relationship with their other parent: you can (a) listen, empathize, and validate your kids' feelings, if they're caught in a toxic relationship triangle. You can also teach, model, and coach them to (b) set clear boundaries (unhook from a triangle), and (c) respectfully assert their needs, with their other parent. Finally...

        You can defer acting on these, because acting will generate some conflict before serenity - or you can begin some of these options now... 

Options

        1) Change your attitude about your ex mate and their behaviors from critical to compassionate. It's very likely that your ex mate is significantly wounded. To research that, read the articles objectively do the worksheets in Project 1

        If your ex is ruled by a false self and denies that, that's equivalent to them having an unchosen disability like a club foot, partial blindness, or a collapsed lung. Would you despise and ridicule  them if they had one of those, or feel compassion?

        Be clear: building a genuine attitude of compassion for your wounded ex mate does not mean you have to endure their behaviors! It does mean that you can assert your boundaries with them firmly and respectfully ("We're of equal dignity"), rather than disdainfully or critically ("I'm 1-up"). It also means you can choose to avoid pitying them - which inherently implies the same shaming attitude.

        Coach yourself and your kids to stay clear on the vital difference between your ex mate's dignity as a unique talented and flawed human being, and their actions. This clarity can empower you to steadily communicate with your ex respectfully and powerfully, which is likely to harvest the same in return, over time.

        2) Take charge of your responses to your ex mate's jealous behaviors. Your first goal is to get centered, (put your true Self in charge). Then get clear on (a) how you feel, (b) specifically what you need, and (c) what you can and can't control. Then (c) assert your needs and boundaries clearly, firmly, and respectfully; and (d) follow through with any consequences (vs. threats) that you asserted. 

        Is this what you do with your ex normally?

        Start by clarifying how you usually respond when you experience your jealous ex. Do this by recalling and mapping a vivid example of the sequence of your recent interactive behaviors. Nonjudgmentally, see if your responses are among these normal ones:

  • argue

  • justify

  • threaten

  • interrupt

  • pretend

  • catastrophize

  • blame

  • explain

  • preach

  • ridicule

  • bargain

  • plead

  • withdraw

  • demand

  • moralize

  • discount

  • rehash the past

  • lose focus

  • attack

  • complain

  • punish

  • tune out

  • withhold

  • rage

        See anything familiar? None of these responses promotes effective communication! Look at each step in your communication-sequence map and mull honestly for you and your ex: "Who's governing this person at this point: their true Self, or a false self? The responses above usually happen when a person's false self rules their personality. You can choose to do otherwise!

        To increase the frequency of your true Self leading your other subselves, work patiently on Project 1 - personal recovery. While you do, grow your fluency in the seven communication skills (Project 2). Use them to change your response-sequence with your jealous ex mate to include...

  • using empathic listening, when they behave jealously (this does not mean you agree or submit!);

  • using awareness and digging down to learn what your and their current primary needs are;

  • using (a) respectful assertion to declare your specific needs, boundaries, and consequences, and  (b) empathic listening to respond to their expected resistances without losing focus (blending);

  • using awareness, metatalk, and problem-solving to spot and invite resolution of any communication (vs. co-parenting) problems you and your ex encounter; 

  • creatively use all seven skills to brainstorm OK solutions to your mutual primary needs, and...

  • using assertion to affirm your and your ex mate's positive behaviors and communication outcomes.

        Does this look like a lot of complexity and work? At first, it is! So was driving a car, or doing your job, when you first began. You can do these steps, over time if you want to.

        In action, this option sounds something like this...

Your ex: "Well, how are you enjoying the mega-thousand dollar multimedia center you bought with my money?"

You - calmly recalling your conclusion that s/he's wounded, not rude, insensitive, stupid, or bad: "You sound really resentful, as you say that." (metatalk observation, not a criticism);

Ex: "Me resentful? Just because you and your jerk lawyer walked off with 90% of our assets after you dumped me - you think I shouldn't feel resentful?"

You: "You're really enraged because you feel the whole process and the outcome was so unfair - and you feel justified in resenting me and the process." (this is empathic listening - not agreeing!);

Ex: (confused by your calm respectful response) "Well, uh... you finally got that right."

You: "I can't change your perception, or rewrite our history. I'm truly sad you're burdened by so much anger and resentment."

Ex: (sarcastically, distrusting your sincerity) "Yeah, sure you are. And pigs can fly, too..."

You: "It's hard for you to trust that I mean that." (more empathic listening);

Ex: (again startled by your reaction) "Of course it is, after all the crap you've dumped on me."

You: "(ex's name), I need to know what you need from me so you'll start to bring down your resentment over past things we can't change. Our kids really need us to get past this together. I know you want what I want for them..." (clear, net assertion, based on your common co-parenting objective);

Ex: (startled) "Huh? You want to know what I need?" That's a first!"

You: "I guess you haven't heard that question from me very often, have you?" (genuinely respectful affirmation, not defending, explaining, groveling, attacking, giving examples,...)

Ex: "That's for sure..."

You: "Well, I mean it now. What can I do to help lower your resentment of me and our past, so we can give the kids the best we've got in the present?" (reasserting what you need with genuine =/= attitude);

Ex: (angrily) "Well you might start by admitting that you gave me the shaft! I know this is too much to hope for in my lifetime, but you need to apologize to me." (Expectation confirmed. Your ex is probably ruled by an angry Guardian personality subself who is generating their thoughts, feelings, and speech. Your ex is not choosing this, and you can't control it);

You: (calmly, with steady eye contact) "You're saying you'd let go of some hurt and resentment at me if you heard me acknowledge how hurt you've been by my actions."  (Note - this is an empathic-listening statement, not  a question. It is checking to see if you're hearing clearly, not agreeing! Such clarity - combined with a genuine mutual-respect attitude - is the core of effective problem solving.)

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        How does this small example of applying the seven communication skills - based on a genuine mutual-respect attitude - compare with how you usually think, feel, and respond to your jealous (wounded) ex mate? 

        If your protective subselves are thinking "This is unreal. I (or we) could never talk like that...", I challenge you: why not? I teach communication skills, and have seen many average adults learn to speak their version of this example, with patient study and practice. Yes you can learn to communicate like this - and then teach your kids how. Project 2 offers tools, and shows you the way...

        Let's continue exploring your options...

        3) Sort and rank the current (vs. historic) relationship problems with your ex, and focus on one at a time. It's unlikely that jealousy is the only stressor you feel with your ex. You can choose to sort out the several concurrent problems, and decide which you want to focus on first. This whole site, this sub-series, and these selected resources provide a framework to help you do so.

        For successful sorting, prioritizing, and problem solving is that your true Self be consistently guiding your personality during the process. Is s/he yet?

        Option 4) Influence (vs. control) your kids' relationship with their other parent. Is the mix of jealousy, resentment, distrust, disrespect, guilt, and hostility you two exchange causing your minor or grown kids to choose between you? Do they feel their other parent needs them to side with them against you? Are they feeling torn (false-self ruled) and guilty for somehow causing the tension between their parents?

        If so, here's an outline of several powerful options you have:

  • Probe respectfully, and listen empathically to each child alone. Some vocal kids need no probing - they'll broadcast their feelings (if not their needs) loud and clear, directly or indirectly ("acting out"). Other kids (including "adult kids") are more distrustful and reserved (not less passionate). They need gentle, sincere, persistent invitations to express what they feel.

        If your child/ren feel caught in a stressful, confusing loyalty conflict between you co-parents, it may be hard for them to say honestly what that feels like. It's even harder to say honestly what they need. Your respectful, patient, empathic listening can help them feel safe, over time, to do that. 

        Your options here include resisting the instinct to fix your child, and just listen and affirm what you hear - without burdening yourself with toxic guilt and shame, and/or anger at your ex spouse. The comfort you can provide your child by hearing them and affirming their feelings - without explaining, analyzing, defending (if you feel guilty), reassuring, or bad-mouthing your ex (or someone) - can be  enormous! Has anyone ever done that with/for you?

  • Teach your child/ren (a) their basic rights as a worthy person, and (b) how to assert their rights, opinions, and needs effectively with their other parent (and everyone else). Modeling and teaching your child/ren these seven communication skills is a priceless bequest. Do your kids know them now? Do they see you using them with them and their other parent? Can your child/ren use the skills effectively with their other parent?

        Your child/ren will need to some core beliefs to empower them to assert their feelings and needs. See if you think each of your kids believes...

  • I have personal Rights, just like my Mom and Dad do; 

  • It's OK to disagree respectfully with my parent, and to say so - without guilt, shame, or anxiety;

  • It's OK and good to tell a parent what I feel - including anger; fear or worry, confusion, shame, and guilt; without being guilty, ashamed, or afraid;

  • It's OK and good to tell a parent what I need. Doing this doesn't mean my Mom or Dad must give me what I need; and...

  • Parents have feelings and needs just like kids, and they're just as important (not more important) as kids' needs and feelings. The best thing is to try and find a way together that I and my parent both get most or all of what we need now, in a respectful way. That takes talking, listening, risking, and patience.

        How might your assertion-guidance sound?

You: "I'm wondering if you ever feel stuck between your Mom(Dad) and me - like if s/he ever says bad things about me around you." (Probing for information)

Child: (variety of responses, including "I don't know...")

You: "Well, if you ever feel stuck in the middle of us, I'd like you to know some ways you can handle that. It feels bad to be caught in between two people you want to like you." (respectful affirmation, and saying what you need); 

Child: (some response, including silence and avoiding eye contact);

You: "If either your Dad(Mom) or I say something bad about the other one - either in front of you, or on the phone, or in another room - and it makes you feel bad - here's something you can do. First: learn how you feel." (This part varies by the age of your child, and what they know).

       "Next, pretend you're a reporter with a video camera. Reporters just get the story, they don't blame anybody." (Is that what your child believes?) "Think about what your Dad(Mom) or I just did that made you feel bad, that you can record with your camera and microphone." (Fill in some examples)

        "The last part is for you to ask me or Mom(Dad) to be quiet and listen to you. Then report to us: 'When you (say what you recorded), I feel ________.' Then if you want to, you can add '...and I need __________.' "

        Some "I needs" are "I need you to...

not call Dad(Mom) names;"

not ask me to agree with you about Mom(Dad);"

talk to Dad(Mom) directly, if you have a problem with them;"

ask me how I feel, and what I need - and listen to me;" and I need you to...

stop fighting all the time, because it makes me feel bad."

        How do you think each of your kids would react to your version of this coaching?

        How well this assertion training works depends on how well (a) you and your ex listen to your child, and (b) who's needs you fill first. If you and/or your ex feel anything other than a genuine "your needs and mine are of equal value to me now" attitude, your child will learn that respectful assertion doesn't work (get their needs met).

        Another option you have for teaching effective relationship skills to each child is to show them this triangling diagram, and explain each of the three roles in language they can understand. Then explain what's better than being in any of the three - mutually respectful (=/=) problem solving. Ask them to go on a "triangle treasure hunt" to help you spot and end any triangles in your home or in your family.

        Lastly, if you elect to do any of these options, inform your ex mate what you're doing, and why - respectfully. One option is to print this article and give them a copy for information and discussion.


Recap

        This article focuses on reducing or responding to excessive jealousy between you and your ex mate. Chronic jealousy can greatly inhibit grieving your divorce losses, and stress you both and your minor and grown children.

        Excessive jealousy is usually a sign of serious false-self dominance. Use the ideas and steps in Project 1 to see if that's true with you and/or your ex mate. If it is, personal recovery - including some form of inner family therapy - can promote your true Self's harmonizing and leading your other subselves, over time.

        Because all behavior is interactive, your reaction to your mate's jealousy may be part of the problem. Two powerful options you have are to map your usual communication sequence with them, and look for instances of either of you having a "1-up (superior)" attitude. 

        If you do, a powerful choice is to change your attitude about your ex from "You're 1-down" to "You're wounded, not bad." Doing this does not mean you have to accept hurtful behavior from him or her. If you "can't" genuinely make this second-order (core attitude) shift - you're probably used to being controlled by a false self.

        Your kids are probably affected by your or your ex's excessive jealousy, and any other barriers to co-parenting harmony. Modeling and teaching your child/ren effective assertion, listening, and problem-solving skills (Project 2) can empower you and them to avoid getting caught in lose-lose-lose relationship triangles. 

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